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Random Politics & Religion #09
Random Politics & Religion #09
Grumpy P&R Mod 2016!
Grumpy Cat said: »
Grumpy P&R Mod 2016!
You would have to listen to people whine all the time.
It's worse than customer service!
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Being a mod is pretty chill. It's kinda like working at a game shop. You get to talk about games, meet other gamers, occasionally see gamer girls...then there are the days when it's your turn for bathroom duty and you have a toilet clogged with a tampon, blood splatter on the seat, and filled with what appears to be Wolf brand chili (no beans), there are maxi pads stuck to the wall, the floor toenail deep with piss, the sink is clogged with a shitty diaper, and there's a loogie on the faucet handle and "ay bay bay, call if u wanna ***" carved into the porcelain tiles on the wall. Yes, porcelain.
That is almost as bad as P&R.
That is almost as bad as P&R.
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Kojo is speaking from personal experience there.
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Kojo is speaking from personal experience there.
Hey, we pay Kojo in reports and PMs.
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I don't get paid at all and I don't get any rubber gloves either.
Anna Ruthven said: »
I don't get paid at all
That's twice as much as you deserve!
also pop us some popcorn for this installment of "Sock War 2 Electric Boogaloo - Cries of the Fallen"
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fonewear said: »
This thread isn't locked yet ?
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Drama Torama said: »
Yeah
You should backread P&R 8. Girlboy let Socky McCriesalot besmirch your good name repeatedly and with much disdain.
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fonewear said: »
This thread isn't locked yet ?
Not yet, but this is thread #9. That could mean that this one is the equivalent of page 9.
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I say we get Edward G Robinson to mod this section see !
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
... Socky McCriesalot ...
I think we know Rooks' new sock account name.
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Now for something more relevant:
Bringing this from RP&R #08 because I don't feel like we finished talking about this topic before Kojo killed the thread:
Again, even with non-union large/small corporations (with or without human resources personnel), wages are not negotiated between lawyers. Hell, lawyers aren't even part of the equation.
A budget is drawn, given to the department head, who then gives it to the individual section managers who then gets with their shift managers who individually talks to the employees about what raise, if any, they are getting. Generally speaking, it's predetermined, but in some cases, especially in cases where retention is an issue, it's negotiated.
Almost the same thing with union jobs, except there's the extra layer of lawyers for the company and lawyers of the union gathering together to determine wages for the workers. The predetermined wage increase is uniform with everyone, and those who actually try to work in the company, those that actually put in the effort, are essentially screwed because they are rewarded the same level as those who are wasted space. How exactly is that fair again?
What really hurts companies is when the budget doesn't match or even come close to what the union demands. And if the union doesn't get what they want, there will always be a strike, which hurts the company even more. Now, the company cannot make any profit because the unions demand too much, or shut down the company until they get what they want, and if a company cannot make any money, they will die and vanish. Then where does that leave the employees?
You cannot take an individual case and apply it to everyone. There are not even 1% of 1% of 1% of 1% of companies out there who are like this. Companies like this would have died from these business practices, it just died a little quicker because of the mining accident.
That company is doomed already.
Bringing this from RP&R #08 because I don't feel like we finished talking about this topic before Kojo killed the thread:
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Ramyrez said:
Well, again. We're talking corporations here. I don't see a need for unions in small businesses. Kansas is just apparently ***.
Let's put it this way: if you're big enough that you need to have human resources personnel, you've grown to the point where you probably should have collective bargaining.
Let's put it this way: if you're big enough that you need to have human resources personnel, you've grown to the point where you probably should have collective bargaining.
A budget is drawn, given to the department head, who then gives it to the individual section managers who then gets with their shift managers who individually talks to the employees about what raise, if any, they are getting. Generally speaking, it's predetermined, but in some cases, especially in cases where retention is an issue, it's negotiated.
Almost the same thing with union jobs, except there's the extra layer of lawyers for the company and lawyers of the union gathering together to determine wages for the workers. The predetermined wage increase is uniform with everyone, and those who actually try to work in the company, those that actually put in the effort, are essentially screwed because they are rewarded the same level as those who are wasted space. How exactly is that fair again?
What really hurts companies is when the budget doesn't match or even come close to what the union demands. And if the union doesn't get what they want, there will always be a strike, which hurts the company even more. Now, the company cannot make any profit because the unions demand too much, or shut down the company until they get what they want, and if a company cannot make any money, they will die and vanish. Then where does that leave the employees?
Ramyrez said:
That said, they also shouldn't be doing this ***in the first place, because what kind of shitbags are knowingly endangering people for a profit?
That company is doomed already.
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